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germany611

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SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« on: June 27, 2007, 10:17:03 pm »
I see the SBS-1 has gone down. This is a very nice price and will you bring price down too ?
« Last Edit: June 29, 2007, 03:55:05 pm by AirNav Support »

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 12:28:48 am »
Hi,

Sorry but we will stick to our current price.

We believe our system is worth the price as you will be getting a huge amount of features.

The RadarBox software has huge amount of functionality e.g alerts, reports, ACARS interface, flight routes, advanced filtering that will keep you busy for days that sets the software above the rest. Lastly it has a brilliant user interface, and if your not intrested in that we do have the delayed data in xml for you to create your own apps. Furthermore being produced by a well known Flight Tracking software company you a guaranteed to updates and  further developments.

Lastly and certainly not least using our software you can have access to our RadarBox Network which is a worlds first. You will be able to track flights across the world which was has never been done before. Not to mention RadarBox network is free in the first year which is a saving of £120 ($240).

Hope that helps.

JSI

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 05:41:07 pm »
Oh well, I know where my money is going now!

SBS-1 (Best value, loads of free add ons)

Plus:
ANAD2 (already got)
OpenATC worldwide traffic (free)


sorted....

Good luck AirNav, there is no competition!

JSI

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 06:11:45 pm »
I think you pay for what you get... SBS-1 is very good, but then radarbox came along and raised the bar.

There is little point in paying (a revised) lower price for SBS-1 when the kit with the most features is definitely radarbox. The network feature on it is also a winner.

Having siad that, Airnav will have to what what they charge in 12 months time for renewing this (network) feature, I.E DO NOT KILL THE GOOSE THAT IS LAYING THE GOLDEN EGG !!!

It will take this 12 months to see how well radarbox really performs, but I do have faith in it, all €690 worth !!!

Dauphin_army

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 07:38:39 pm »
no doubt the radar box is a good product but a reduction in the price wouldn't hurt and would convince a lot of people, who are trying to make up their minds on wether to buy or not including myself , to buy. 699 euro's is a lot of money !


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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2007, 01:05:06 am »
I think you pay for what you get... SBS-1 is very good, but then radarbox came along and raised the bar.

There is little point in paying (a revised) lower price for SBS-1 when the kit with the most features is definitely radarbox. The network feature on it is also a winner.

Having siad that, Airnav will have to what what they charge in 12 months time for renewing this (network) feature, I.E DO NOT KILL THE GOOSE THAT IS LAYING THE GOLDEN EGG !!!

It will take this 12 months to see how well radarbox really performs, but I do have faith in it, all €690 worth !!!

Dauphin_army

And if governments dont like the network, like they sat on kinetic, then they will block the network and will AirNav refund £120 ($240) ?

Or if kinetic turn back on their MapModes product for free ? ;-) Remember the beta testers were using it !!

And as JSI said
Oh well, I know where my money is going now!

SBS-1 (Best value, loads of free add ons)

Plus:
ANAD2 (already got)
OpenATC worldwide traffic (free)


sorted....

Good luck AirNav, there is no competition!

JSI
« Last Edit: June 30, 2007, 01:07:28 am by germany611 »

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2007, 12:20:08 pm »
Regarding the network, yes we would refund it if it was closed down. However not in the first year as this is free.

You mention loads of free addons. However all of them are already intergrated into RadaBox 2007. The couple which are missing will be ready soon as well.

OpenATC as mentioned before cannot be displayed on your screen with your local antenna aircraft at the same time therefore we do not regard it as proper sharing network.

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 01:30:12 am »
Just a quick note: AirNav Systems will fight competition with quality, not with price wars.

We believe our product is better, it is the result of development work from more than 10 aviation professionals (engineers, pilots and ATC personnel). AirNav Systems is a already a world leader in flight tracking solutions with more than 30 thousand users worldwide.

We have joined the mode-s community as we have joined the ASDI (USA) flight tracking area: to be leaders.

The quality of our software cannot be compared, in our opinion and from the feedback we have received until now, with the current mode-s applications available. Why? Because RadarBox 2007 is the result of the experience we have had in this field years after years.

As with what happened with our other tracking solutions where we compete even with free sites, our user base has always grown proving that the quality is more important than 100 GBP / 150 EUR in savings.

Keep the suggestions coming and, as with our other application, we will keep working to have an application that everyone wants to use.

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 10:55:55 am »
You say quality - not price !  but then you are not spending money like users. SBS-1 works well and maybe RadarBox works well but money is money. Ya !!

AirNav is software that exist for a long time and if users want then its ok. ATC screens in real life are not busy like all AirNav featuurs so SBS product is also developed by I understand pilots engineers and ATC people. Its more honest to say AirNav produce RadarBox to help fill out coverage and what will happen when you have enouf contibutors.  Will NOT be required to be buying RadarBox to see all aircraft, on;y AirNav software subscription.



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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 12:35:19 pm »
Thats is simply not true. We are keeping it fair to the RadarBox users, therefore only they have access to the network data.

Hope that clears it up.

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2007, 02:22:43 pm »
<<And if governments dont like the network, like they sat on kinetic,JSI >>

Here we go again, rumour after rumour but no facts.
Pat


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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 04:40:41 pm »
I might be missing something, but why, when you've spent a large amount of money on a live system are you interested in network time delayed information???

With a good aerial and a bit of height you can pick up traffic 100+ miles away. Isn't that enough??

Surely the questions should be about how good the live traffic and databases are.

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 05:05:58 pm »
True, however its nice to be able to track a flight from departure to arrival. Or at least have a good heads up on whats approaching.

Plus were humans beings, we are never satisfied, we always want the extra mile coverage :)

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 05:07:37 pm »
I agree to an extent that live traffic is what some people want. However, there will be times when it would be good to see what is happening elsewhere. I have to go to places where an aerial would be a no-no so if at those times I can pick up just network traffic without having to erect an aerial it could be great.

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Re: SBS-1 pricing down - will u follow
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2007, 05:21:06 pm »
True, however its nice to be able to track a flight from departure to arrival. Or at least have a good heads up on whats approaching.

Plus were humans beings, we are never satisfied, we always want the extra mile coverage :)

You're saying that because it seems that this is the main feature you're using for selling the product, whilst for me and I'd say the vast majority of users it really is accurate, up to date databases giving the right information that I want!!

I'm saying this because I feel I've already been caught once by AirNav with its ACARS decoder. Great product just rubbish support with database updates. It took individuals taking their own time to do the updates for free, which eventually they just gave up the ghost. I also don't have the time to keep on track of all the updates, but as this is possibly a fantastic step forward for the enthusiast will AirNav keep its buyers happy?? They should do as it could be the win or lose thing against SBS-1

I agree to an extent that live traffic is what some people want. However, there will be times when it would be good to see what is happening elsewhere. I have to go to places where an aerial would be a no-no so if at those times I can pick up just network traffic without having to erect an aerial it could be great.

Roadrunner - i take it then you'd have a internet connection?? If so, just use the free online one with Google Earth :-)