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Author Topic: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)  (Read 18943 times)

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HH

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Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« on: September 24, 2007, 07:29:59 AM »
Some Shots from traffic on the ground at EDDH, Hamburg, Germany.

Some things I observed were that departing traffic (while taxiing) almost never showed up. In contrast to that the landing traffic was visible a long time after landing. The ground track in Radarbox compared to reality (as I had full sight of the taxiways) was very accurate with those planes.

Have a look at the offsets (e.g. DLH 076), which I often observe esp. with Lufthansa Flights (sometimes 2nm and more even on domestic flights).

I'm also not sure with the QNH settings, as you can see the DLH076, which already touched down at this time, showed up 180 ft. (with the actual QNH derived from the latest ATIS and set in the preferences). Field elevation is 53" in EDDH. Correcting the QNH down by 4 hPa (barometic scale factor 4 * 30 ft.) showed the correct altitude of at least some aircraft, but it also differed as you can see with the UAE206 (in the short final, not landed) and BER3167 (touched down).

I would like to thank Allocator for his great work on the outlines for EDDH_Ground!

Markus

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 08:43:28 AM »
Looking good Markus, great screenshots!

I think that you still have your original test outline installed as well - see the extra lines that run from the northern threshold to the eastern.  Same from SW T/H to S T/H.

I think that it's this one you want to get rid of:

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All the best

Allocator
« Last Edit: September 24, 2007, 08:48:28 AM by Allocator »

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 09:42:20 AM »
Hi Allocator,

finally got rid of those lines. Thank you!

Markus

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 10:31:25 AM »
Hi Markus,
enjoyed your screenshots very much. How about letting the VIRTUAL-RADAR.de
community enjoy too??? (as was with the A-380 visiting EDDH!!!)
The "offsets" as mentioned above have been part of an earlier discussion with you already.
Lufthansa's B737 fleet , as well as a lot of other aircraft "suffer this behavior", resulting from their ADS-B transmitted positioning data beeing INS / DME-DME based rather than GPS. As there is no official use yet, nobody "complains" exept  "Virtual Radar Users".

Looking forward for your screenshots,

Karl
« Last Edit: September 25, 2007, 10:34:42 AM by flightchecker »

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2007, 10:13:11 AM »
The next will be on virtual-radar.de ;)

Liebe Grüße,

Markus

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 08:39:37 AM »
Great Markus !

"Liebe Grüsse" too.


Karl

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 08:10:30 AM »
Hi Markus,

just a question i want know. Whats up with "private"traffic especially Biz jets...are they visible as well ? Thx for your feddback
Regards from EDDM
Mark

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2007, 02:18:54 PM »
Hi Mark,

as far as they are equipped with ADS-B you might also see biz jets. But I can't remember seeing one of them, they are only showing up in the list as they are always/ often? "only" Mode-S equipped.

Liebe Grüße aus EDDH,

Markus

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Re: Ground Traffic - Observations EDDH (Hamburg-Fuhsbüttel)
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2007, 04:52:40 PM »
Hi Mark,

as far as they are equipped with ADS-B you might also see biz jets. But I can't remember seeing one of them, they are only showing up in the list as they are always/ often? "only" Mode-S equipped.

Liebe Grüße aus EDDH,

Markus

Hi there,

My local airport is Luton which handles loads of biz jet flights and only a small number are fitted with ADS-B. What I do is use the altitude from the list  (usually around 2500-2800 above my house) alongside good old fashioned eye-ball to see them go past my window........

Mike