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DeeJay

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Out of Date Registrations
« on: February 04, 2009, 05:10:52 PM »
Have noticed that regs G-MIDK, ex BMA, and G-TTIA, ex British Med/Easyjet, are now appearing with Monarch flight nos,and according to airframes.org, are now G-OZBN and G-OZBS respectively. Is there a facility on Radarbox to amend such details.  Would appreciate any advice.

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 05:24:17 PM »
Hi DeeJay

If RadarBox sees that it already has data for a particular Mode S code, it leaves it alone, so old data stays put.

You have two choices, both involving Database Explorer (on the File menu):

1 - update the info yourself or
2 - delete the record entirely and wait for the aircraft to appear in RadarBox again, when RB, seeing a blank record, will update it autmatically.

At the moment, the automatic update feature seems to be having problems, so it may be best to use option 1 for now.

Hope that helps.

Rod
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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 05:25:13 PM »
Go into your database explorer from the file menu and edit the details for the mode s codes you require.
Select the table 'aircraft' then enter the codes you wish to change in 'MS' then click find, edit the details you wish to change.
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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 07:48:55 PM »
Deejay,

I raised this on http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1052.0, I have updated the aircraft in DB explorer and all is OK, I agree that it is a bit of a pain, because as soon as you have updated one aircraft owner you will have to update the rest you know of, a never ending task.

Point is how do you keep on top of it all ?, some logic in Airnav program would help, ie if aircraft info is older than 3 months update info from GAS but keep coments.

Christian

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 07:54:20 PM »
Hi Christian

Problem is, it's an impossible situation. The GAS database isn't perfect - for example, I spend quite a bit of time updating the aircraft short names which GAS gets wrong. If the program automatically changed them back every three months, I'd get very cross.

Unless the program recorded every field on every record that I updated, it wouldn't know what data to update.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a routine that just said "if it's wrong, put it right"? ;-)

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 08:04:04 PM »
Hi Rod,

I understand GAS isn’t perfect, not much in the world that is !!

If there was a way of updating the database with the latest info according to GAS/ Government websites we would be on a winner. Not sure as you say when you draw the line as to your own updates but there must be a way of having multiple entries in the DB for an aircraft when it was received?

Bit more complicated but an absolutely brilliant idea!

Christian

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2009, 08:32:09 PM »
Some commonly seen UK aircraft that have changed registration and often  appear in logs posted on the usergroups with their old registrations.

401167 G-SYGA BE20 ; old reg G-BPPM
400A92 G-OAAF ATP ; old reg G-JEMB
400C63 G-ISAY JS41 ; old reg G-MAJN
400830 G-OZBN A321 ; old reg G-MIDK
401133 G-VIPW PA31 ; old reg G-NEWR
400DCB G-WCCI E135 ; old reg G-REUB
400BE6 G-RJXP E135 ; old reg G-CDFS
400B4D G-VUEA C550 ; old reg G-JECF
4006DB G-OOPE A321 ; old reg G-OOAE
401009 G-RRAZ E135 ; old reg G-RUBN
4008CB G-OZBS A321 ; old reg G-TTIA
4008CC G-OZBP A321 ; old reg G-TTIB

Hope this helps, happy updating

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2009, 10:06:20 PM »
Some more

4006EE G-TOYM B733 ; old reg G-OHAJ
401020 G-KLYN BE20 ; old reg G-CLCG
400832 G-OZBO A321 ; old reg G-MIDM
40067C G-OMYJ A321 ; old reg G-OOAF
400A8E G-OOPX A320 ; old reg G-OOAX
4054B7 G-NIKX R44 ; old reg G-OMJM
400A29 G-CHAI CL60 ; old reg G-FBFI
402DDB G-SDAY AS55 ; old reg G-SYPA
400B33 G-RJXR E145 ; old reg G-CCYH
400437 G-LSAJ B752 ; old reg G-CDUP
400A89 G-YPRS C550 ; old reg G-IPAL

and some overseas ones regularly appearing in UK airspace
3A1D34 F-GVZN AT72 ; old reg F-OHJU
341582 EC-KDD A320 ; old reg EC-JST
738045 4X-ELE B744 ; old reg 4X-ELS
744B21 JY-RYA CL60 ; old reg JY-RY1
4D02CA N121JF BE33 ; old reg LX-LMB
3420C5 EC-IYI B738 ; old reg EC-IVJ
02A2A7 TS-INN A320 ; old reg TS-ING
683086 UP-C8502 CRJ2 ; old reg UN-C8502

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 09:12:17 AM »
ACW367

Thanks for those updates. Saves a lot of time hunting around. Some changing to do now!

Cheers.

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 05:24:43 PM »
Thanks for all the advice DeeJay

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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 03:25:39 PM »
REf updates - option in Preferences - to enable or not
Also which fields and age before checking.

Could use logic of - is field blank or null or '...'   then update.
Also if the Aircraft type (AT) is not in the actype Db table - update.
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Re: Out of Date Registrations
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 03:38:08 PM »
Another thought on updating -
Add a table to the DB of Flight prefixes, then check for Company match from flight ID - if match fails check aircraft Registration and company details - if changed update those chosen in preference table.
Based in Hexham - Tyne Valley 
Best view for RB is North of a line between EGNT and EGNC  - includes OTA and Spade, to EGPH above 7500ft.   Can be TRUE mobile with Mobile Broadband feed to Network.