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AirNav ShipTrax => AirNav ShipTrax Discussion => Topic started by: Johnn on September 15, 2010, 10:22:52 AM

Title: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: Johnn on September 15, 2010, 10:22:52 AM
Thanks John
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: tarbat on September 15, 2010, 01:08:54 PM
In the absence of a response from Airnav.
As a beta tester the only update I can offer is that I'm still running the same beta released to me back in September 2009.  Whilst it has ran flawlessly every day for a whole year now, logging over 3,800 ships, I've seen nothing to fix the bugs.

It's very frustrating to see such an excellent piece of software apparently going nowhere.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/4993129004_602a3c3bbe_m_d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4993129004/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 15, 2010, 11:56:33 PM
A lot of progress has been made and we are waiting for 5 similar hardware samples to come from the factory and start the final HW test stage. The final and almost approved unit has been running non-stop for 3 weeks without a single problem and receiving 125% more messages than a SR162 AIS receiver.

This has been an extremelly hard project for us especially because it is the first dual band AIS receiver with 3 simultaneous output (Serial, Ethernet, USB). We hope it to have the same success for the Shipping Industry as RadarBox is having for aviation - both were released (ANSH will be) on a market where the competitors used to dominate 100% but after a few months our market share grows - after a few years we hope to, like RadarBox, set the standards and dominate the market.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: tarbat on September 16, 2010, 07:21:38 AM
So, good progress on the hardware.  But has there been any further development of the software to fix the bugs?
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 16, 2010, 02:41:44 PM
The software is 95% finished. We have implemented the (difficult) ShipTrax network which has much more ships that the RadarBox network. All is working Ok now. Stby for further news as we will contact all the beta testers again soon.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: tarbat on September 16, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Thanks for the update Airnav.  Ready and waiting to beta test using my virtual hardware (sp2trax (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3985355870/sizes/o/in/photostream/)) ;)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3985355870_073aca5508_t_d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3985355870/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: Johnn on September 17, 2010, 12:52:05 PM
Many Thanks for the update airnav
Johnn-
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: flightinair on September 17, 2010, 02:47:11 PM
i will look forward to it, many thanks for the udate
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: CoastGuardJon on September 17, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
and receiving 125% more messages than a SR162 AIS receiver.

Hi AN Dev., living on top of the cliffs in the sw of Cornwall, I've got the Western Approaches before me (yes, I know, someone's got to live here!) so the Shiptrax version is of some considerable interest to me.

Referring to your quote above, can you clarify whether you actually mean the Shiptrax is receiving 125% more or it is picking up the same plus 25% - to expand/explain just what I mean, if the SR162 is picking up 4 messages, is Shiptrax picking up 5 (ie 125%) or 9 (125% more) messages?   A very important difference, I think you will agree.

I hope this doesn't come across as nit-picking, but the english language is a fickle friend - you often hear/read of scientists these days making statements, saying like "25 times less" or "70 fold less", which are nonsense grammatically.     Unless you're dealing with fractions/decimals of less than 1, no figure times another is going to be less than you started with.   Mathematically "times" means multiplying which infers increasing and larger, not smaller, division results in smaller products.....................

If, indeed you do mean 125% more, this is a fantastic progression and  improvement, but only if it is quantifiable under the same conditions and consistent - I would be willing to trial a Shiptrax if there's one going begging!
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 17, 2010, 06:37:52 PM
During the tests we ran for each 100 msgs received by SR162 we got and average of 125 (in similar conditions).
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: CoastGuardJon on September 17, 2010, 07:32:54 PM
Hi AN Dev, many thanks for the very prompt clarification - as you appreciate there's quite a difference.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: jannuh on September 21, 2010, 01:58:35 PM

This has been an extremelly hard project for us especially because it is the first dual band AIS receiver with 3 simultaneous output (Serial, Ethernet, USB).
As nearly every week now a new AIS receiver comes on the market there are more receivers with Serial/USB/Ethernet
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 21, 2010, 03:11:40 PM
Shiptrax is not only a receiver but a complete tracking system that includes software, hardware and an AIS network.
The more competitors the better: after all when we first released RadarBox our competitors had 100% of the market and because of the technology superiority RadarBox is now the market leader.
The same will happen to ShipTrax.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: Johnn on September 21, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
Will the AIS network be live? I guess there is no securtity issue with ships as there is with planes?
Thanks
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 21, 2010, 10:10:51 PM
The ShipTrax AIS network will be live.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: jannuh on September 24, 2010, 01:56:11 PM
Shiptrax is not only a receiver but a complete tracking system that includes software, hardware and an AIS network.
The more competitors the better: after all when we first released RadarBox our competitors had 100% of the market and because of the technology superiority RadarBox is now the market leader.
The same will happen to ShipTrax.

Every AIS receiver with Shipplotter forms also "a complete tracking system that includes software, hardware and an AIS network"

So in that way your absolutely NOT unique.
A child of ten years old can buy an AIS receiver and Shipplotter via internet, that's not rocket science!!
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Support on September 24, 2010, 02:43:30 PM
jannuh,

We know you are here only to cause trouble as your last dozen posts suggest but anyway no AIS reciever comes with Shipplotter so its not a complete tracking system with hardware, software etc..

Many of our customers are not tech savy and would like a kit which does everything.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: jannuh on September 24, 2010, 03:44:02 PM
jannuh,

We know you are here only to cause trouble as your last dozen posts suggest but anyway no AIS reciever comes with Shipplotter so its not a complete tracking system with hardware, software etc..

Many of our customers are not tech savy and would like a kit which does everything.
So you have to be tech savvy to buy a piece of hardware (many product comparisions on the internet) and software???

Again, a child of 10 years old can do this!
There's no rocket science attached!!

Please A.N. read your own stuff before posting, that makes you more reliable to your customers!
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: tarbat on September 24, 2010, 03:53:16 PM
So you have to be tech savvy to buy a piece of hardware (many product comparisions on the internet) and software???

Again, a child of 10 years old can do this!
There's no rocket science attached!!

Just reading the ShipPlotter instructions on how to setup a receiver would be daunting for those that aren't "tech savvy".  Hopefully the ShipTrax receiver will be simple plug-and-play with the ShipTrax software.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: jannuh on September 24, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
Agree Tarbat that you have to read the help files and then there still may rise some questions; you always can ask for help on the SP forum.

For people who don't want to read the help files any piece of software is too complicated.

You also have to read and understand something, not that much, about AIS; if that's too much then sit behind your television and watch reality soaps or something like that!!
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: mt007 on October 20, 2010, 11:25:59 PM
Guys,
any news?
Im waiting for that, but if delay much more i have to find another box in market.
Thx.
Best regards
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on October 20, 2010, 11:56:43 PM
We have good news: the software is already being beta tested with good results.
The hardware is finished and beta testing as started.
Server/network software is finished.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: Johnn on October 21, 2010, 09:40:21 AM
Thanks for the update airnav, Maybe in time for a early or late xmas present? :)
Johnn
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: AirNav Development on October 21, 2010, 09:57:21 PM
We hope so but we can't guarantee it as some factors don't depend on us.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: mt007 on October 22, 2010, 03:53:35 PM
Great news Airnav.
Thx.

I need you can tell me this: Shiptrax go work like RB about network? I mean we have to pay to see network traffic?
Or it goes free?

Thx very much.

PS if you need more beta testers, i live near to atlantique ocean in ocean border, and maybe i can help.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: Johnn on October 22, 2010, 04:16:04 PM
Hi,
I have a quick question if anyone could answer it please,  my range with my radarbox covers a good chunk of the english channel, If I have a vhf antenna I think? for the shiptrax at the same height as my other aerial, will the range be the same? I think the antennas have a max of 50 miles?
Thanks
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: jannuh on October 27, 2010, 12:52:30 PM
Range depending on antenna height, using good coax cable and ofcourse the area where you live (hills, high buildings etc.)

30 nm will be possible (more/less see above)
There are more postings about range in this Shiptrax forum.
Title: Re: Anymore Delevelopment With The Shiptrax?
Post by: tarbat on October 27, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
Johnn, I get around 15NM range with my antenna located in the loft.  Unfortunately I have a big hill to my NE which limits range, but I get good coverage across the Cromarty, Moray, and Dornoch firths.  That's using a Comar receiver, and I'm looking forward to see how range compares with the ShipTrax unit.

You can see my location at http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/shiptrax.htm