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AirNav ShipTrax => AirNav ShipTrax Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on December 17, 2009, 03:14:23 AM
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We are today receiving the latest Hardware sample from the HW development team. If all is Ok with it we will finalize the software/firmware development in 4-8 weeks. We are also preparing the final graphical work for the box, sleeve and CD envelope.
This has been a very challenging project for us but we are sure that once released it will be a success.
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Outstanding, eagerly awaiting your product.
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Still running the beta software here every day, so if there's a later beta, let me know and I can test.
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Many thanks for the update airnav :)
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Will it be just a combined hardware/software solution, or is software compatible with other hardware (NMEA) receivers??
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The software is compatible with other receivers.
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My question wasn't complete, so part 2:
.. and will the software be sold seperatly??
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Yes,w e believe so but the final commercial agreement is not yet completed.
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Hi AirNav,
The best thing about my Radarbox is that it worked 'out of the box' - ie as delivered.
Powered from USB cable (with no additional power supply needed) and complete with a basic antennae.
Will ShipTrax ship with a similar 'works out of the box' option?
I had a very enjoyable round Britain cruise in September with a basic setup of Admiralty Charts running on a Samsung NC10 netbook - centered on a GPS feed from a handheld Garmin GPSr. (connected via bespoke USB cable to a 'virtual' serial port).
I would have loved to have had live AIS data too - but was put off by the hassle of additional power supply and aerial.
A 'work out of the box' solution would be great - although I accept not much help to me at home (as far from the UK shore as you can get!) but parents live by the sea and I'm up for another cruise in 2010!
Cheers
Chris
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"Will ShipTrax ship with a similar 'works out of the box' option?"
Absolutely. Just like RadarBox. Antena, USB cable, hardware and software. Plug-n-play and will all the expertise we gained from RadarBox included (MyLog, Alerts, SmartView, etc).
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"Will ShipTrax ship with a similar 'works out of the box' option?"
Absolutely. Just like RadarBox. Antena, USB cable, hardware and software. Plug-n-play and will all the expertise we gained from RadarBox included (MyLog, Alerts, SmartView, etc).
hi airnav.
Any word yet on the ShipTrax looking forward to the release.
I just renew my airnav live, waiting for ShipTrax now.
from pat
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I've noticed one price has appeared on the website, so things must be moving! The licence to connect to the website is £120 / annum, or equivalent. Add on the cost of the software for those who already have a suitable receiver, you can soon estimate a likely outlay.
Of course if you go for the whole package, the 1st years connection fee is inclusive.
Start saving!
Peter
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Hi
Will the 'Ship Trax Network' be in real-time - live and not 5 min delayed etc like radar box?
Thanks
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Hi
Will the 'Ship Trax Network' be in real-time - live and not 5 min delayed etc like radar box?
Thanks
How will you know? How far will a ship travel in 5 minutes?
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How will you know? How far will a ship travel in 5 minutes?
Far enough to be noticable - 20knots equals approx. 1.7 miles in 5 minutes.
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I would have thought that 20 knts was quite fast for a ship?
As far as I'm aware, there isn't a 'security' requirement to delay displayed AIS information.
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I would have thought that 20 knts was quite fast for a ship?
The Pentalina to Orkney regularly gets close to 20kts, and even some of the older ferries such as the Isle of Lewis to Stornoway manage 17kts.
At the moment there are no ships on the Airnav network, but I would expect them to be real-time.
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I've noticed one price has appeared on the website, so things must be moving! The licence to connect to the website is £120 / annum, or equivalent. Add on the cost of the software for those who already have a suitable receiver, you can soon estimate a likely outlay.
Of course if you go for the whole package, the 1st years connection fee is inclusive.
Start saving!
Peter
Pfffffff, Shipplotter cost only 25 euro, just once... and this is the software including network!!!
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I would have thought that 20 knts was quite fast for a ship?
As far as I'm aware, there isn't a 'security' requirement to delay displayed AIS information.
These wont go 20 knots.. ;-) (happy with 5 knots I think)
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Convoi on "IJssellake"
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I use ShipPlotter too, but having played with an early beta version of ShipTrax, the difference in the interface is the same as that between RadarBox and PlanePlotter.
The ShipTrax interface is far superior to the ShipPlotter interface (although ShipPlotter is very good). I'm guessing that the ShipTrax Network access will be free for the first year like RadarBox and you will be getting a dual frequency 'plug and play' receiver too.
Horses for courses - depends what you need I suppose.
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Hi Allocator,
Have already since few years a dual channel AIS receiver, the SR162
and even (not in use at the moment) the SR161.
If the software isn't too expensive I consider to buy it, without network.
Can use Shipplotter on my main pc for viewng other areas worldwide.
My Shipplotter/DSCDecoder/Maritiem Comms program PC(as also mySR162 + RB)
is in the loft, just use it via UltraVNC on my main PC.
Agree ShipTrax program looks nice!
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If the software isn't too expensive I consider to buy it, without network.
Can use Shipplotter on my main pc for viewng other areas worldwide.
Or you could do what I'm doing in beta testing. Use sp2trax to feed ships from the ShipPlotter network into Shiptrax. You get the best of both worlds - all the ships from the ShipPlotter network, plus the great user interface of ShipTrax.
I'm currently viewing over 160 ships from the ShipPlotter network in the beta of ShipTrax.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2703/4275561773_6ef106cbbf.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4275561773/sizes/o/)
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Hi Tarbat,
Thanks for pointing out that possibility.
When ShipTrax is launched I will come back to you with the "How do i do that"Q ;-)
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Tarbat, where can I find out more about sp2trax please. A Google search only brings up your Flickr page!
Edit: Maybe it's a ShipPlotter add-on - can't seem to access the COAA page at the moment.
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Tarbat, where can I find out more about sp2trax please. A Google search only brings up your Flickr page!
Its a VB program that tarbat wrote:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3478.msg34491#msg34491
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He's a clever bloke!
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Yes, it's a Shipplotter addon I wrote, available for download from the ShipPlotter Yahoo group - sp2trax.zip on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shipplotter/files/
That's the advantage of ShipTrax, it's an open platform that can receive ship data in standard formats from:
1. COM/USB ports
2. TCP ports
3. Airnav network.
I've already suggested to Airnav that they incorporate my sp2trax logic into ShipTrax. It would be a great way of encouraging existing ShipPlotter users to migrate to ShipTrax. I've even released the source code for them to use for free!!
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I looked there and didn't see it - still can't, what's it called?
Edit: OK, found it - it's in the root file directory rather than the VB bit :-)
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A question for Tarbat if he is monitoring at present. Can you see my SP feed from Harwich / Felixtowe on your ShipTrax testing set -up please?
Cheers
Peter
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A question for Tarbat if he is monitoring at present. Can you see my SP feed from Harwich / Felixtowe on your ShipTrax testing set -up please?
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Interesting isn't it? I like the table so that you can see exactly what is happening and the route information. I assume that you put the HD coastline in yourself as we had to do in RB?
Look forward to trying it out in the fullness of time. I've got my own AIS receiver, ironically my old one gave up the ghost around 6 months ago and I delayed replacement for weeks before deciding that ShipTrax was still "pie in the sky" as regards a release date. I now run the Icom dual chanel and it is very good.
Hopefully it will be released at a sensible cost, the figure for contnued connection to the server after the 1st year was a bit of a shock, but there are alternatives to that!
Thanks
Peter
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I assume that you put the HD coastline in yourself as we had to do in RB?
Yes. The standard coastline is a bit low-res for a ship-tracking application. Hopefully that will be fixed in a later beta - the coastline requirements for ship-tracking are a lot more demanding than what you need for aircraft-tracking!!
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Hi, All
Any Idea of the max range we could get with this hardware?, What type of external antenna would need to be used for this?
Thanks
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I use my 70cm / 2 m co-linear mounted on the gable end for my reception. I just swop connections for either marine reception or working with my 2 m / 70cm rig.
My normal sea range is around 50 miles, but bear in mind that I'm already 15 miles inland, so total 60 - 80 ish from here is the norm at this time of year. If there is a Springtime lift on, anything can happen! I've watched traffic in the Dover Straits, I've watched the Cunard and Fred Olsen cruise ships all the way from the Solent to 100 miles north of here when on their Norway destinations. I think that my record was 250 miles from the home QTH, but these lifts can decay quite rapidly as the temperature changes, so can easily be missed if you are not in to start with! Conversely there are some really grotty days, like today for instance, when I'm lucky to see 40 miles from here, i.e. 25 out to sea.
It is also interesting to note that there are a few berths that I cannot never see, despite picking up stuff much further out, much depends on conditions at any one time.
Peter