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Title: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: tarbat on October 17, 2009, 12:18:37 PM
This works with Radarbox as well.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2433/4018514899_afa0e94a08_o.jpg)

Available from http://jetvision.de/bstchart/SBS1Meter.zip

More discussion at http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=85970
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Allocator on October 17, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
Nice, downloaded and running now :-)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: OKC-Steve on October 17, 2009, 03:56:50 PM
This will consume one socket.  Does RB allow more than 1 socket connect in the new versions?  I think Basestation allows 5.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: tarbat on October 17, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
This will consume one socket.  Does RB allow more than 1 socket connect in the new versions?  I think Basestation allows 5.

v3.07 allows at least 2 connections on port 30003, from testing I've done.  It may allow more.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Allocator on October 17, 2009, 04:09:28 PM
This will consume one socket.  Does RB allow more than 1 socket connect in the new versions?  I think Basestation allows 5.

I'm running SBS-1 Meter Lite and JSTARS v1.2.5 and they are both working well together :-)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: OKC-Steve on October 17, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
OK good, I didn't keep up.  I think it was version 2 that only allowed one.

He makes me mad, because I struggle greatly with Java GUI stuff, and his looks so good :-)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Allocator on October 17, 2009, 05:04:52 PM
Here is my first one hour chart for the West Midlands (UK).
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: pjm on October 17, 2009, 09:50:29 PM
Nice program, they should build a panel like this into Radarbox!

Sunday morning over Sydney

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3082/20091018123103.jpg)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: pjm on October 19, 2009, 02:02:04 AM
Very useful program. You can see below the difference between my old Antenna (I reinstated it between 10.55am and 11.20am this morning, and the AirNav RADAR-EXTENDER Antenna. I wonder what the difference will be once I get the preamp working :)

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5742/20091019125752.jpg)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: jannuh on October 20, 2009, 09:56:31 AM
Really nice program, used it to test connection between RB and PC, have an usb-extender in use (5 mtr.); tested yesterday with a usb2tcp interface.
Where range (Polar Diagram) was the same with both options, I did receive more messages with the usb-extender; must admit usb2tcp was in disadvantage in this test, signal had to go through 3 routers, that's maybe too much  ;)
Test it later with direct connection to extra networkcard in the PC which runs RB.

This screenshot is from lateron (19/10 1200 - this morning):
(http://83.161.210.231/air/images/rbstats.jpg)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: John Racars on October 20, 2009, 06:55:23 PM
Nice, downloaded and running now :-)

Hi All,

Looks verry nice indeed but chart is not working with me until sofar. What should I load as "SBS-1 Meter log"? I do not see any *.sbs file in the AirNav Systems directory anyway.....

Any help will be verry welcome. Thanks you in advance!
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: jannuh on October 20, 2009, 07:50:40 PM
Hi John,

First start the SBS-meter, configure & start it.
Then load the SBS-chart, load the file auto made by sbs-meter (made on actual time from start)
It's in the same map overhere.
GL


Btw RB has much higher counts on messages then SBS-meter gives.
But the meter gives a nice overview ;-)

Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: John Racars on October 20, 2009, 08:46:06 PM
Hi Jannuh,

Thank you. It is working verry well now!
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 09:20:01 AM
hi
sorry for this but i am doing something wrong.
i download and open both software on my desktop
my airnnav is also running, when i open sbs-meter and click on
load sbs meter log, where do i find the SBS-chart
from pat lost
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Storm on October 21, 2009, 10:15:35 AM
Didn't work for me at all I'm running 3.0.6 could that be the reason?
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
Didn't work for me at all I'm running 3.0.6 could that be the reason?
hi storm.
 thanks for the reply, driving me mad.
from pat
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Storm on October 21, 2009, 10:31:37 AM
Hi Pat. Got it to work. Open the config file FIRST (SBS-1 Meter config settings) then you may close it after that. Then click ont he S in the program click Edit then Save without changing anyhting in there (I checked the Record Log dont know if that make a difference) Now click the R in the Start. Let me know if that helps.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: pjm on October 21, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
Make sure you turn on the log BEFORE you press start on SBSMeter. The log file will be created in the same directory as SBSMeter.

Once some data has been written to the log file (may take 5 minutes), start the Chart program and point it to the log file.

If you are running SBSMeter from the Desktop, then the log files will be on the desktop.

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2345/20091021213216.jpg)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 10:42:18 AM
Hi Pat. Got it to work. Open the config file FIRST (SBS-1 Meter config settings) then you may close it after that. Then click ont he S in the program click Edit then Save without changing anyhting in there (I checked the Record Log dont know if that make a difference) Now click the R in the Start. Let me know if that helps.
no still no good, small window comes up wrong port or bs not running
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: jannuh on October 21, 2009, 12:40:49 PM
Btw the sbs-meter program has to run, the sbs-chart can always be switched on later, it reads data from the date-time.sbs file, made by the sbs-meter program.

Even better not to run the sbs-chart always as it uses a lot of memory.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Tramline on October 21, 2009, 01:14:47 PM
Can someone advise a technically challenged RB user, what is the point of this application?  What does it really show and what can be gleaned from it?
Thanks
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: jannuh on October 21, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
From a newbie in RB:
it's a nice gimmick when testing antenna/RB/connections.
You can read more differences from the msg. counter then from the Polar Diagram.

Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Allocator on October 21, 2009, 03:59:29 PM
Just remember also, that this add-on is designed for the SBS-1 and not for RB.  The fact that it does run with RB is a bonus.  Any technical questions should be directed to the author - who is not a member of this forum.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 04:11:01 PM
Just remember also, that this add-on is designed for the SBS-1 and not for RB.  The fact that it does run with RB is a bonus.  Any technical questions should be directed to the author - who is not a member of this forum.
hi Allocator.
I am not taking digs at anybody,  but airnav is a complete unit,  while the opposition unit has to many add-on,  and there every chance of a virus getting on your computer, with these add-on.  it was one of main reasons i choose airnav, maybe i am wrong or just careful.
from pat in rainy derry ireland
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Allocator on October 21, 2009, 04:16:35 PM
OK Pat, all noted.  I just wanted to remind people before they started having a go at AirNav because this add-on wasn't working for them :-)

Although RB has just about everything built-in, I still like the idea of using the data from the ports.  Not much development has taken place as the need just isn't the same as for the SBS-1.  And I'm not clever enough to do anything with the port data!
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 04:53:50 PM
OK Pat, all noted.  I just wanted to remind people before they started having a go at AirNav because this add-on wasn't working for them :-)

Although RB has just about everything built-in, I still like the idea of using the data from the ports.  Not much development has taken place as the need just isn't the same as for the SBS-1.  And I'm not clever enough to do anything with the port data!
hi Allocator
hi same here i just use it, one of my many pastimes,  i have a ham licence been on the cb since 1976,  have shiplotter software,  have numerous scanners,  radio ham radios,  my main scanner is the pcr 1000,  love decoding anything to do with radios  so i have little time to my self.
all the best pat
ps: nearly forgot my new toy,  pure evoke flow, my new internet radio.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: jannuh on October 21, 2009, 05:57:06 PM
I am not taking digs at anybody,  but airnav is a complete unit,  while the opposition unit has to many add-on,  and there every chance of a virus getting on your computer, with these add-on. 
So You have almost nothing on yr PC as Windows and RB, because of the virus thread??
Throw off that paranoia mask..  ;-)

Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: OKC-Steve on October 21, 2009, 06:13:26 PM
Try not to put stuff under "Program Files" as it will end-up in the virtual store (with Vista).  Make a new C: directory like C:\meter and put the two files in there.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
I am not taking digs at anybody,  but airnav is a complete unit,  while the opposition unit has to many add-on,  and there every chance of a virus getting on your computer, with these add-on. 
So You have almost nothing on yr PC as Windows and RB, because of the virus thread??
Throw off that paranoia mask..  ;-)


hi jannuh.
I have more than you will ever comprehend on my three PC, i am just saying you can not be to careful with free add-ons from the internet,  and everybody has there own opinion like myself.
and you.
My paranoia mask stays on,  thanks for sending it,  anyway its near Halloween it will come in handy.
have a good night from pat.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: DaveReid on October 21, 2009, 07:57:26 PM
i am just saying you can not be to careful with free add-ons from the internet

No, what you said was "there is every chance of a virus getting on your computer, with these [SBS] add-ons"

That's not the same thing at all.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: bratters on October 21, 2009, 08:02:48 PM

hi same here i just use it, one of my many pastimes,  i have a ham licence been on the cb since 1976,  have shiplotter software,  have numerous scanners,  radio ham radios, 

Hi Pat -  what's your call sign? I'll keep an ear out for you.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: QF1 on October 21, 2009, 09:37:58 PM

ps: nearly forgot my new toy,  pure evoke flow, my new internet radio.



Hi Pat

It's a great piece of kit isn't it.  I imported one to Oz about six months ago.  Apart from the huge number of radio stations I have also got a few airports set up to listen to using live.atc.net

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 10:19:43 PM

ps: nearly forgot my new toy,  pure evoke flow, my new internet radio.



Hi Pat

It's a great piece of kit isn't it.  I imported one to Oz about six months ago.  Apart from the huge number of radio stations I have also got a few airports set up to listen to using live.atc.net

Cheers
Mark
hi QF1.
I got the battery,  remote control,  speaker,  i love it to bits, what site is the aircraft on, must try it again, never work for me. love the pure sounds, took the radio out to the back yard with the ext speaker,  put on the pig farm, had a good laugh at tom next door trying to look into the back yard.
from pat
PS: let me know how to add airport stations, can not seem to do it.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Jeremy on October 21, 2009, 11:18:59 PM
Is this a Google translattion?
What is your amateur call Pat?
de J. G4DOQ
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 21, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
Is this a Google translattion?
What is your amateur call Pat?
de J. G4DOQ
why do want to know for news for the house
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: jannuh on October 22, 2009, 08:01:02 AM
There is a difference between a HAM and a CB'er Pat!

jannuh - PD0SBX
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 22, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
There is a difference between a HAM and a CB'er Pat!

jannuh - PD0SBX

pm you
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: AirNav Support on October 22, 2009, 09:22:36 AM
Lets keep  it back to the topic. Any infighting between members, whether using signature, images etc.. will mean the posts are removed and if the member does it again he will be banned. Those doing this and have now been warned and notified.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 22, 2009, 11:25:55 AM
Lets keep  it back to the topic. Any infighting between members, whether using signature, images etc.. will mean the posts are removed and if the member does it again he will be banned. Those doing this and have now been warned and notified.
thanks
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: CoastGuardJon on October 22, 2009, 07:50:20 PM
There is a difference between a HAM and a CB'er Pat!

jannuh - PD0SBX


Hi Jannuh, Pat and Jeremy, I was also one of the original illegal CBers in the early/mid 70s (lost a Midland and a Cobra to the Home Office during raids at Westbury White Horse in Wilts - I was a copper at the time, accept confiscation and a verbal bollicking or dispute in Court!) and actually passed the RAE with distinction in 1993/4 but never bothered to get a licence, as I've never got to grips with Morse and a B-licence didn't really interest me (snob value of the A!).    My point is that CB brought Amateur Radio to the less technically able.

I'm content just to eavesdrop, fiddle and twiddle!
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Jeremy on October 22, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
I took the RAE when it was a real exam and how i passed it I will never know!
Good luck to you mate! Been out de-clogging recently?
J.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Fenris on October 22, 2009, 09:16:41 PM
passed the RAE with distinction in 1993/4 but never bothered to get a licence, as I've never got to grips with Morse and a B-licence didn't really interest me (snob value of the A!). 

FYI the morse requirement for HF access was removed in 2003, your RAE pass would entitle you to a full licence I think, I can't see why you would be required to go via the Foundation Licence.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 22, 2009, 10:13:43 PM
There is a difference between a HAM and a CB'er Pat!

jannuh - PD0SBX


Hi Jannuh, Pat and Jeremy, I was also one of the original illegal CBers in the early/mid 70s (lost a Midland and a Cobra to the Home Office during raids at Westbury White Horse in Wilts - I was a copper at the time, accept confiscation and a verbal bollicking or dispute in Court!) and actually passed the RAE with distinction in 1993/4 but never bothered to get a licence, as I've never got to grips with Morse and a B-licence didn't really interest me (snob value of the A!).    My point is that CB brought Amateur Radio to the less technically able.

I'm content just to eavesdrop, fiddle and twiddle!
pm you
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: CoastGuardJon on October 22, 2009, 10:46:23 PM
Hi Jeremy, when did the RAE become a not "real" exam.?   It was still G**** callsigns when I did it.

Hi Brian, thanks for that.   I was aware, but I wanted to do it with Morse, but just wasn't able to find the time and commitment to finish it - I do have a very nice 20yrs old home assembled Morse key (Kent? possibly).    May have to go for it as a retirement project........................
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Jeremy on October 22, 2009, 10:58:22 PM
Ah well! I took my exam when it was a written paper in 1974. None of the tick box stuff! Sorry. I am winding you up! As I said, if i had to take the new exam I would probably fail it except i have 35 years of experience in 'playing radio'! I have tried to re-learn CW and have some fun getting my speed back up. As a trained musician I ought to be able to do it but I still struggle. All part of the fun of the hobby! It does help when dealing with antennae for RB and this great fun box.
J.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: Fenris on October 22, 2009, 11:13:12 PM
I took the last (although I didn't know it at the time) written RAE in December 1978. It became multiple choice in May 1979, there only being two exams per year.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 23, 2009, 07:37:25 AM
There is a difference between a HAM and a CB'er Pat!

jannuh - PD0SBX


Hi Jannuh, Pat and Jeremy, I was also one of the original illegal CBers in the early/mid 70s (lost a Midland and a Cobra to the Home Office during raids at Westbury White Horse in Wilts - I was a copper at the time, accept confiscation and a verbal bollicking or dispute in Court!) and actually passed the RAE with distinction in 1993/4 but never bothered to get a licence, as I've never got to grips with Morse and a B-licence didn't really interest me (snob value of the A!).    My point is that CB brought Amateur Radio to the less technically able.

I'm content just to eavesdrop, fiddle and twiddle!
happy days, and it cost £85 in 1980 for someone to take ham exam for you,
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac107/radarspotters/68op96.jpg)
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2009, 08:01:25 AM
What has any of this got to do with SBS-1 Meter Lite?

Why not start another thread about CB Protests.
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: MikeC on October 23, 2009, 08:06:31 AM
What's called "Serious Thread Drift"
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: bratters on October 23, 2009, 08:38:51 AM
This is like Groundhog Day. Ugh!
Title: Re: SBS-1 Meter Lite
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 23, 2009, 11:12:21 AM
What's called "Serious Thread Drift"


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yes tarbat sorry about that, will do.
from pat