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HeathrowCam.net => HeathrowCam.net => Topic started by: HeathrowCam - Support on February 19, 2009, 01:35:01 PM
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The original site is currently down while we prepare the new site for go live.
More details here:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2203.0 (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2203.0)
Thanks to all in advance for your support in testing out the site here:
http://heathrowcam.net/indenew.php (http://heathrowcam.net/indenew.php)
Please let me know on this thread if you hit any issues.
Thanks
James
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Hi James, I don't know if this if a problem at my end - photos are coming through as they should, but on Live Radar, I'm just getting the same RB display timed at 1208UTC today, nothing showing on it,and after each update, the screen is just the same, now 1436.
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Hi Jon, thanks. I was doing some work to set up my RB antenna elsewhere. Ideally I need to add a service status window or simply a message/icon to indicate if the RB is offline for maintenance. Thanks for sparking that idea! James
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Hi James, the display is off your RB then? Many thanks for sharing it with us, and the superb pics. Being right down in sw Cornwall, it is great being able to view LHR.
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Yes, got my ANRB on a dedicated pc running H24 uploading every minute. Now it's all set up and running with the website I'm aiming for zero outages.
All the great comments like your own really makes all the hard work on the site so worthwhile. Thanks for the feedback. James
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James,
The live Heathrow screen shot display is looking good - well done with this and the webcam :-)
The only problem I see with the screen shot is that it does look a little cluttered. Do you really need the range rings and the "path vectors"? With all the traffic that you will get when it is busy, I think that it might be a case of less is better?
I'm sure that you will experiment and come up with the best options :-)
Not a criticism, just an observation.
Allocator
Below: Network traffic rather than live, but an interesting comparison.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3297673893_f93f5d8d18.jpg)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3297673893_64c465c9b4_o.jpg
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Hi Allocator
Thanks for the feedback and ideas. I will have a play with the options soon. I was planning to add some outlines soon so unchecking some options to declutter is the way forward.
Thanks
James
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Hi James
Great webcam - absolutely superb!
One question - I've managed to establish that the cam is looking across Caroline Place, Nobel Drive & the A4 towards the BA 747 hangars but does this mean that the webcam is mounted on a pole in the middle of a field or is it as far back as Cranford Lane?! Or has something been built since the Google Earth / Maps images were produced?
Totally intrigued - would also love to know whether the movement sensor is something unusual or special.
Once again, many thanks & long may the cam reign!
Best regards
Paul Burchell
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Hi Paul
Good guesses! However, I'm keeping my location under my hat for obvious personal security reasons :-)
I'm planning on putting together a web page with details on how the camera works. Will post to this forum when I have news on this.
Thanks for the superb feedback. Much appreciated.
All the best
James
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Hi James,
Again, as previous, absolutely superb site, is there any chance of it ever tying in with the Heathrow Arrivals page............................? We're never saitisfied, are we!
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Hi Jon, thanks again! Plenty of great new ideas for site and yes I'd really like to add arrivals info page so I'm looking into how to pull out the data from my RB.
One really cool idea I have is to hook up an IP camera with PTZ ability (pan/tilt/zoom) and there's new progressive scan CCD ones available but for around the 1K mark. If enough people would be interested I could probably afford one assuming people would pay a subscription for the interactive use. I'll post a survey on it soon. How do you like that idea??
All the best James
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James,
Having just bought a RadarBox and joined the forum, I can't believe how good this cam is!
I often wondered whether such a cam existed and I've finally found it. I know how I'll be spending my spare time now (to say nothing of switching it on at work too!)
Thanks very much
Kev
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Lovely site, just seen 747SP HZ-AIF on the cam! Which makes me wonder is there any site that publishes lists of forthcoming visitors to Heathrow??
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Hi Kev
Thanks for the really good words about the site.
I have the site on in the background at work too!
What do you think about having a live stream or even a controllable IP camera?
James
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James
Live stream would be a real bonus.
Not sure how a controllable IP camera would work - but I'd be interested in finding out more.
How feasible would it be to link the shots to actual details of the flight - route, a/c registration etc. Probably a big task and maybe not even possible at the moment, but I keep the heathrow arrivals web page open and can make a pretty good guess where the a/c has come from (not too easy with BA though lol)
Thanks again
Kevin
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Thanks for the comment bigjim.
I don't know of any sites publishing forthcoming visitors. Sorry.
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James
Live stream would be a real bonus.
Not sure how a controllable IP camera would work - but I'd be interested in finding out more.
How feasible would it be to link the shots to actual details of the flight - route, a/c registration etc. Probably a big task and maybe not even possible at the moment, but I keep the heathrow arrivals web page open and can make a pretty good guess where the a/c has come from (not too easy with BA though lol)
Thanks again
Kevin
Kev
I would really like to have an arrivals feature on the site with a/c details. I'm planning look into the RB reporting features soon. Matching up to photo could prove a bit tricky though. Better to just have a list I think and use the zoom feature to pick out the registration.
Are you referring to the civilaircraftregisters site?
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Hello James,
Any idea for how long the service will be down? I already miss it ..
Regards,
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Hi Mo
Out of action for a few days for PC repair unfortnately.
James
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Hi Mo
Out of action for a few days for PC repair unfortnately.
James
Thanks James - Speedy recovery :)
I am still waiting for you to release the thing we talked about so I could purchase it ;)
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James
Live stream would be a real bonus.
Not sure how a controllable IP camera would work - but I'd be interested in finding out more.
How feasible would it be to link the shots to actual details of the flight - route, a/c registration etc. Probably a big task and maybe not even possible at the moment, but I keep the heathrow arrivals web page open and can make a pretty good guess where the a/c has come from (not too easy with BA though lol)
Thanks again
Kevin
James I'm knew here, but can somebody explain, why are some pictures more close up than the rest, does the camera keep on zooming in and out?
at which runaway is the camre located, I assume that the landings are when the airport is on westerly operation, are you filming the runaway next to Hatton Cross station (Northern I think), or the opposit side
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hi elal
The camera is looking south and faces the east end of the northern runway so gets close up shots of 27R landings.
The camera also captures 27L southern runway landings which are the distant shots.
The current camera does not zoom.
This week landings are generally on 27L in the morning and 27R from 15:00 but there have been quite a few 27R landings in the morning before the hour of both runways being used which is quite unusual.
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One really cool idea I have is to hook up an IP camera with PTZ ability (pan/tilt/zoom) and there's new progressive scan CCD ones available but for around the 1K mark. If enough people would be interested I could probably afford one assuming people would pay a subscription for the interactive use. I'll post a survey on it soon. How do you like that idea??
Hi James,
Only just seen your post above, I'd certainly be willing to make a contribution or reasonable subscription (I think I'd rather do that than pay the network subscription - sorry AN!).
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The cam is off, due to different runway in use, does that mean that they are using the crosswind runway?
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The cam is off, due to different runway in use, does that mean that they are using the crosswind runway?
That means they are using 09R/L .. Therefore it's the other side and no landing or takeoff could be captured.
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The cam is off, due to different runway in use, does that mean that they are using the crosswind runway?
That means they are using 09R/L .. Therefore it's the other side and no landing or takeoff could be captured.
why wouldn't the take off's be captured?
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Different rate of climb?
On approach, all aircraft are going to be following more or less the same nominal glidepath aiming at the runway threshold. On departure, they will be getting airborne at a slightly different points and climbing at a different rates. So, it will be much easier to point the webcam to see the aircraft on approach, but more difficult for climbout?
That's my guess anyway - standing by to be corrected :-)
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Different rate of climb?
On approach, all aircraft are going to be following more or less the same nominal glidepath aiming at the runway threshold. On departure, they will be getting airborne at a slightly different points and climbing at a different rates. So, it will be much easier to point the webcam to see the aircraft on approach, but more difficult for climbout?
That's my guess anyway - standing by to be corrected :-)
Well put however, most aircrafts get airborne by half the runway or almost the end if they are extra heavy .. No point I think because you won't see anything just a plane with whose gear is up and climbing
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No point I think because you won't see anything just a plane with whose gear is up and climbing
What do you mean no point, that's just the point we want, to have a webcam of flights just taken off from Heathrow, like we have it on flights just about to land at Heathrow?
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No point I think because you won't see anything just a plane with whose gear is up and climbing
What do you mean no point, that's just the point we want, to have a webcam of flights just taken off from Heathrow, like we have it on flights just about to land at Heathrow?
I'm sure that anything is possible - Heathrow Cam Support will have to answer this one for you. Just Remember that the guy running the webcam is doing this because he wants to - it's not an AirNav product - I'm sure that he would be more than willing to set up a much "smarter" camera if us RB users were prepared to pay him for the service :-)
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Different rate of climb?
On approach, all aircraft are going to be following more or less the same nominal glidepath aiming at the runway threshold. On departure, they will be getting airborne at a slightly different points and climbing at a different rates. So, it will be much easier to point the webcam to see the aircraft on approach, but more difficult for climbout?
That's my guess anyway - standing by to be corrected :-)
Yes - that's spot on Allocator. I've been watching the take offs on 9R today and the a/c are several hundred feet higher than the point the camera is fixed and as they are always on 9R they are also too distant. The a/c are at many various different points in the sky and so it's very difficult to photograph them let alone trigger the camera. I have tried to work out the section of the sky that most a/c pass through but then I've had focusing problems. The only solution appears to be the PTZ IP camera which can be controlled to follow a/c. Some PTZ IP cameras have tracking but not sure how reliable this would be. These cameras aren't cheap though. Perhaps when the Cranford Agreement is completely removed and take offs begin on 09L (will they ever, does anyone know?) then I would have a shot at capturing those.
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Hi James, I'm really enjoying your cam
I have 2 short questions
1)what is the reason that the camera is switched off daily at 20:36, It would be great if it was left on untill a bit later (I like watching ELAL come in, and it comes in daily between 20:40 - 20:50)
2)Why is it at times that it's stated on the screen "camera off" and the cam is actually on?
for example daily between 20:30 - 20:36, or last week when the camera caught a glorious shot of a Sri Lankan A340 taking off, and the camera was off
Once again thanks a million for your great work and keep it up
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Hi James, I'm really enjoying your cam
I have 2 short questions
1)what is the reason that the camera is switched off daily at 20:36, It would be great if it was left on untill a bit later (I like watching ELAL come in, and it comes in daily between 20:40 - 20:50)
2)Why is it at times that it's stated on the screen "camera off" and the cam is actually on?
for example daily between 20:30 - 20:36, or last week when the camera caught a glorious shot of a Sri Lankan A340 taking off, and the camera was off
Once again thanks a million for your great work and keep it up
Hi elal
1) I'm using AI Robot to automate the system and I had it set at that time to switch off the triggering simply so we don't get too dark pictures. With sunset much later now I will increase this time from tonight to 9pm.
2) Thanks for spotting this. I had AI Robot set to do camera off too early. I've corrected it now. The Sri Lankan was a fluke last week. I normally power down the equipment but left it on just in case the wind was to change. I've experimented with capturing take off on 9L but it would need another camera. I already put more details about this in this thread. I think I will look into this when take off's start on 9L if they ever do as they will be much closer.
Thanks for using the site.
James
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Hi all I am new here just found the Heathrow cam so at last we have one for Heathrow the busiest Int airport and home of the plane spotter I can't understand why its taken so long and also its about time we had live atc from Heathrow too, on the Internet you can get most large Airports in the US so why not here, the radar is a great feature when its running as it also show the a/c reg.
Well done to all involved would love to see streaming cam too, but I know this is asking a bit much :)
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Hi Simon
Welcome to the site. Glad you like it.
You can also pick out the a/c reg for the a/c landing on 27R by using the "zoom on" link then use the up and down arrows to zoom in and out.
I had couple of home network blips today affecting the RadarBox screenshot but this should be back to normal now. I have it running 24/7.
I would really like to add a stream cam. I'm looking into it.
All the best
James
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Thank you James for welcome I have tried the zoom but my eyesight not best but I can get most reg from RadarBox. But I do have a question on the log can I change and or delete I have some duplicates and I have made a mistake on one of them. I'm very glad to have found your site thank you again.
Simon
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Hi Simon
I have the change and delete feature on my work list. I'm also planning on having an icon under each thumbnail or just under the main photo to pop up the RadarBox screenshot from the same time the photo was taken. I think that would be pretty neat/useful.
James
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Yes sounds pretty good to me your doing a great job there I know its a lazy way of spotting but these days I don't have time to go to airports not like in the 80s when I used to travel all over inc Europe and buy all the books but once you started you always look at aircraft my trouble is now I don't recognise many of the aircraft is it me or do many of them look all the same? Not like the old days with the 727s dc9s dc10s, tristars etc etc, OK OK I know I'm old.
Thx again
Simon
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Yes sounds pretty good to me your doing a great job there I know its a lazy way of spotting but these days I don't have time to go to airports not like in the 80s when I used to travel all over inc Europe and buy all the books but once you started you always look at aircraft my trouble is now I don't recognise many of the aircraft is it me or do many of them look all the same? Not like the old days with the 727s dc9s dc10s, tristars etc etc, OK OK I know I'm old.
Thx again
Simon
I also can't recognise between the aircrafts types, for example between the 737 and A319/20/21 series, or between the 757 and 767 or A330 (especially wth BA who for some reason don't write the model type on the aircraft).
The 747 and A340 and of course the A380 are easy to recognise, the 777 can also be easily recognised by it's set of 3 rear wheels.
Does anybody have any other ways of recognising any other aircraft?
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I also can't recognise between the aircrafts types, for example between the 737 and A319/20/21 series, or between the 757 and 767 or A330 (especially wth BA who for some reason don't write the model type on the aircraft).
The 747 and A340 and of course the A380 are easy to recognise, the 777 can also be easily recognised by it's set of 3 rear wheels.
Does anybody have any other ways of recognising any other aircraft?
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Glad I'm not the only one :)
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I also can't recognise between the aircrafts types, for example between the 737 and A319/20/21 series, or between the 757 and 767 or A330 (especially wth BA who for some reason don't write the model type on the aircraft).
The 747 and A340 and of course the A380 are easy to recognise, the 777 can also be easily recognised by it's set of 3 rear wheels.
Does anybody have any other ways of recognising any other aircraft?
Glad I'm not the only one :)
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The give away with the 737 is the kink in the fin, the A320's is completely straight. Also the 737 has a pointier nose. The 757 is quite distinct to my view as it has a very rakish appearance, distinguishable from the A321 by its much larger fin.
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Thank you bigjim its a great help
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Hi I have set up a streaming webcam at Glasgow perhaps something like this could be set up for Heathrow the link is http://patriot.camstreams.com/ (http://patriot.camstreams.com/)
Hi all I am new here just found the Heathrow cam so at last we have one for Heathrow the busiest Int airport and home of the plane spotter I can't understand why its taken so long and also its about time we had live atc from Heathrow too, on the Internet you can get most large Airports in the US so why not here, the radar is a great feature when its running as it also show the a/c reg.
Well done to all involved would love to see streaming cam too, but I know this is asking a bit much :)
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Hi I have set up a streaming webcam at Glasgow perhaps something like this could be set up for Heathrow the link is http://patriot.camstreams.com/ (http://patriot.camstreams.com/)
OK great will check it out
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Ian - cool cam. The frame rate is really good. Is it about 25 frames a second?
What camera are you using? I'm currently looking at Megapixel IP Cameras and trying to decide whether I should spend a bit more for a progressive scan ccd as I had bad experience with a Canon VB-C50's interlacing messing up the edges of the a/c.
Cheers
James
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Hi the camera set up is a Logitech PRO 9000 webcam which is looking through one side of a 10 x 25 binoculars and i think the frame rate is about 25fps.
Cheers Ian.S
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Hi the camera set up is a Logitech PRO 9000 webcam which is looking through one side of a 10 x 25 binoculars and i think the frame rate is about 25fps.
Cheers Ian.S
Wow good cam, not very busy but very clear. It would be amazing to have something like this at Heathrow!
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Nice solution hooking bins to webcam!
Video stream coming soon to heathrowcam.net! :-)
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Nice solution hooking bins to webcam!
Video stream coming soon to heathrowcam.net! :-)
Wow! were looking very forward.
But will there still be the option of having the pictures of previous aircraft saved?
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Nice solution hooking bins to webcam!
Video stream coming soon to heathrowcam.net! :-)
Wow! were looking very forward.
But will there still be the option of having the pictures of previous aircraft saved?
Yes. Plan is to add a dedicated page that shows the stream. I also want to build in a feature to show video clips via thumbnails so you can replay ones you've missed during the day.
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How can the photos be taken with such precision and clarity?
What kind of camera/software are you using?
It seems impossible that the camera can take pictures of each passing plane directly in the middle of each shot!
-Thomas
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Hi there. I've created a thread with the set up details.
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An absolutely sensational site, James! Thanks in advance for all the fun I expect to have here.
-Deltaflyer
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Video stream coming soon to heathrowcam.net! :-)
James any progress with this wonderful plan?
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Elal
Almost done with server change and new details feature so video is next up! Nothing ready to go yet. In development.
Watch this space.
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You might want to reset the home setting. It's currently north of Northolt, showing nothing of Heathrow at all.
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You might want to reset the home setting. It's currently north of Northolt, showing nothing of Heathrow at all.
DOn't really understand your problem, the cam seems to be working fine today.
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Radar screen shot problem earlier today, now back to normal. Cheers
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Live Radar down again? Screenshot has not updated since 08 April:0210 UTC?
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Continuing Live Radar screen shot gremlins? Screenshot has not updated since 09 April:0238 UTC?
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The site administrator has been advised about this problem and is taking the necessary measures.
PS: You don't need to post a message on every topic about this.
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want something like railcam/nl
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Have you tried the free trial of the video stream?
http://heathrowcam.net/stream/logon.php
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hellos I wanted to know why the webcam live there no zoom and your website shows pictures of the plane near thank you.
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Hi fabflight57
The video stream is a fixed IP camera and has a manual zoom lens.
The still photos are taken by a Canon 350d camera.
All the profits from subscriptions are pushed back into the project so the aim is to get enough money to pay for a Pan Tilt and Zoom IP camera in future that subscribers can conttrol.
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hello, okay so I see the camera can not zoom it takes to be the background necessary to have a zoom I understand thank you for your reply.